Monday Answers #245: the Sac-O-Suds!

Happy Monday morning!

Friday’s questions are here.  The answers follow today’s Honor Roll.

Honor Roll

  • Matt Anderson, Pratt Vreeland Kennelly Martin & White
  • Evan Barquist, Montroll Oettinger & Barquist
  • Penny Benelli, Dakin & Benelli
  • Andrew Delaney, Martin Delaney & Ricci
  • Heather Devine, Tarrant Gillies Shems
  • Bob Fletcher, Stitzel Page & Fletcher; President, Vermont Bar Association,
  • Bob Grundstein
  • Keith Kasper, McCormick, Fitzpatrick, Kasper & Burchard
  • Deb Kirchwey, Law Office of Deborah Kirchwey
  • Jack McCullough, Project Director, Mental Health Law Project, Vermont Legal Aid
  • Jeffrey Messina, Messina Law
  • Hal Miller, First American Title Insurance, Hawaii Agency State Counsel
  • Herb Ogden, Esq.
  • Keith RobertsDarby Kolter & Roberts
  • Brice Simon, Breton & Simon
  • Jonathan Teller-Elsberg, Sheehey Furlong & Behm
  • Jason Warfield, J.D.


Question 1

 The following are exceptions to a particular rule.

  • to establish a claim or defense in a controversy between the lawyer and client;
  • to establish a defense to a criminal charge or civil claim against the lawyer based upon conduct in which the client was involved; or,
  • to respond to allegations in any proceeding concerning the lawyer’s representation of the client.

The rule addresses one of the 7 Cs of Legal Ethics.  Which one?

CONFIDENTIALITY.  See, V.R.Pr.C. 1.6.  The listed exceptions are in paragraph (c)(3), the so called “self-defense” exception.

 Question 2

Fill in the blank.

A comment to one of the conflicts rules states that “continued common representation will almost always be inadequate if one client _________________.”

  • A.  pays a higher percentage of the lawyer’s fee than the other client.
  • B.  is also a former client, but in an unrelated matter.
  • C.  is the lawyer’s main contact on matters related to the representation.
  • D.  asks the lawyer not to disclose to the other client information relevant to the common representation.  See, V.R.Pr.C. 1.7, Cmt. [31].

 Question 3.

Notwithstanding a conflict of interest, a lawyer may represent a client if

  • A. The lawyer reasonably believes that the lawyer will be able to provide competent and diligent representation to each affected client and the representation is not prohibited by law.
  • B.  The representation does not involve the assertion of a claim by one client against another client represented by the lawyer in the same litigation or other proceeding before a tribunal.
  • C.  Each affected client gives informed consent, confirmed in writing.
  • D.  A, B, and C.  These are the elements set out in Rule 1.7(b).

Question 4

Lawyer called with an inquiry. I listened, then responded:

  • “There’s no rule that specifically prohibits it. But the fee must be reasonable, you must comply with the rule on business transactions with a client, and you should consider whether it would create a personal interest that would materially limit your ability to provide the client with competent and candid legal advice.”

Given my response, it’s most like that Lawyer called to ask about:

  • A.  a contingent fee.
  • B.  accepting an ownership interest in a client’s business as payment for legal fees.
  • C.  representing a family member.
  • D.  marrying a client.

Karen Rubin is a lawyer (and friend of this blog) who writes for The Law for Lawyers Today. Last year, Karen posted Take stock instead of legal fees? Take a hard look and mind the ethics rules.

Question 5

In the introduction, I mentioned something that I saw on Twitter the other day.  Another thing that I saw on Twitter this week was this:

I agree!

Here’s today’s question:

Vinny’s clients were charged with robbing and shooting a store clerk.  However, when they were arrested, they thought it was for accidentally shoplifting.  While at the store, Vinny’s cousin didn’t pay for an item he had put in his pocket because his hands were full.

What was the item?   A can of tuna.

Bonus: what’s the name of the store?  Sac-O-Suds

Sac O Suds